What are the general misconceptions that you see in the books pertaining to demons that tizzy, boggy, antefalken, and or tom don't correct? Because I want to know what is misinformation spread from wizards ( men and women in pointy hats with no sense of right and wrong!) And what is accurate reliable information on this forum. Besides everything tizzy says.
tizzy can't see yellow can he? Because I don't trust him, not because he is a demon, but because he is, well, Tizzy.


Also is it possible to make an artificial demon via animus from dead things? If so then do wizards ( no sense of right or wrong, a blight and virus over the land, truly,) tend to summon demons on battlefields? If so might that make a larger or more powerful demon? Especially during the forming process, or do they have magic circles to prevent that? If they do then they probably don't know why they do it other than paranoia.


And on the topic of animus, is it possible to fuse mana and animus? Or does that make some kind of magic antimatter? Or are they like oil and vinegar that attract each other? Is there an equivalent of an emulsifier? So many questions, and I am waiting eagerly for book two!

Yep,

Necromancy is raising the dead/animating the dead, infusing the souls of the departed into old corpses or constructs.

One sort of nasty, although often tolerated heresy on this front is binding souls into magic items. In particular swords seem to be a popular choice.
golems sometimes as wel

What do you mean more reliable source than Tizzy?

Clearly, being a very ancient demon, I must be one of the most knowledgeable and renowned sources of demonic knowledge in the multiverse?.

To be honest there isn't a lot of accurate reliable information, other than me. However, the Library has texts from various scribes (some of which were in the book)

Yes, demons are often sent into battlefields.

No, can't really fuse animus and mana, but they will stick to each other. Typically, a non-corporal being is a blob of animus surrounded by a mana body.

are demon and devils different things?

and is their a plane where people summon spirits, which are also constructed in the same way as demons, dragons, the undead, and possibly angels.

Is there any one besides the demons who know the truth about them? or does everybody automatically assume that they are all lying? It just seems like every demon claiming to come from somewhere else and that they weren't always a demon, would have been noticed by some scholar or scribe at some point in history. So either most of the demons lie about where they come from, or the wizards are just that paranoid about sharing their knowledge that they took any stories with them to their graves. or at least to their demon's stomachs.

Another question, since demons don't need to eat, and don't um,... have certain bodily functions that occur after eating, is any food they eat converted directly into manna or animus?

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Can Animages summon demons, and how would their process differ from normal? Since animages manipulate manna directly, how would they summon a demon, since demon summonings seem to be all about spells and pentagram designs. What would an animage that specialized in demon summoning be called, a demonimaster? ( ADHD moment- is an animage that controls the dead a necromaster?) BAck on topic, would an animage just think about which demon he wanted and create a bond to him? I can see one way that could work, if the animage was a astromaster or spatiomaster, or whatever its called, he could reach into the abyss and form a link with a demon. If this is how it works I can see how the anilords were so feared. So, how would an animage summon a demon and would he need a pentagram?

All of these points you raise are good, and for the most part, that's why people are scared witless of greater demons, archdemons and princes.

They can do all sorts of nasty things. Such as dominate the wizard and force him to become a warlock slave. They also have access to incubuses.

The type I through III's and the lesser IV's can't really do this. They don't have the power, or the resources (e.g. hire an incubus)

The animages that summon things are called Summoners. Summoners and some types of druids/shaman work in a similar manner to what you describe; very much like Tom does. The way Tom listens for Gastrope' or others to 'summon him' call him by name and then he opens a link through a nearby fire is pretty much the exact reverse of what a Summoner would do.

A summoner controlling a demon would have a binding on that demon, that would provide him the link to the demon, so the demon could hear him (much like Tom has) and he could use that binding (a very high level link) to compel the demon, but he, the Summoner would have to open the gateway for the demon (assuming it's a lesser demon)

The real problem Summoners have is that it's very freaking dangerous, you don't have all the protections or armor that a wizard has. The wizard will build up all these spells, ritual etc to protect himself from the demon.

Summoner's don't really have this, it is shear will power. So Summoners that summon demons typically stick to Type I, II. Something they have the power to defeat in combat. In particular something called a Will War or various things (wizards have Wizard War) which are basically sheer tests of magical strength/magical wrestling if you will.

That being said, summoners can and do use Rune Magic, if they know it. Rune Magic predates modern wizardry and is probably the oldest from of formulated magic. You see Tom learning how to use it/read it/activate it in book II.

So serious Summoners would use rune magic to construct wards of protection, much like a wizard does with the pentagrams. A summoner can in fact make a pentagram inscribed with runes. If they are smart, they will.

Of course Summoners can summon about anything. They often use Summoning to summon animals, or spirits, or the dead. Remember there was some talk about this when Edwyrd was handwaving to Maelon about how to bring back Rupert.

Shaman's do a lot of Summoning; although typically not of demons.

So back to your other point about making demons. Most humans would never even think of this because demons are elemental evil in their mind. They can distinguish humans from nearby worlds on the Astral Planes, but as the distance between planes increase the distortion grows.

Orcus was essentially creating demons out of his greatest Orc warriors upon their death. There were great ceremonies where the great warriors were linked to orcus and tattooed with various magical runes and then if and when they died, Orcus and his D'Orc Shamans would summon the warrior using the tattoo's and links to capture the soul of the warrior and drag it into the Abyss and create a D'Orc body.

ABout the D'orc making process: Could Tom do something similar for Vaselle, so that if Vaselle is killed he could come back as a demon? That seems like something he might be willing to try, and he would be a good first test subject, because if he didn't come back, none of the orcs would be upset, and Tom wouldn't want them to lose faith in him, if they thought he couldn't bring them back if he promised it to them.

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Yah, I am pretty sure that the orcs/d'orcs will be expecting to go out and start conquering. It will be fun to see how Tom deals with that, since he is just going to want to work on improving things around Mt. Doom and helping the tribes.

He'll probably just point them to corrupt or "evil" places first. He'll probably think "I can do a better job than those bad people". That's the slippery slope Dark Overlords slide down face first on.

Bah, it's just a punishment detail, then. If they were serious about it, they'd just get a couple of slime molds or Gelatinous Cubes to do it. Our slime doesn't hinder us too much, and our slime is just about as slippery. Our promotion council would have been all over that.