Badumtish. Yeah i guess, the only true Litrpg i really like is The Land. unless I'm forgetting some which i probably am.

Pff, in the case of the LotR series that things were left out of the movies was actually a good thing. Seriously, I have no idea why Tolkien gets so much acclaim. His books were long-winded, excessive, and boring. I am a voracious reader, and rarely do I stop reading books that are even halfway decent (for instance, I actually read every book in the Wheel of Time series once despite how bad they got between 6-10). But I never was able to get past the what 30 pages whining about misplacing the Ent-wives from Treebeard.... seriously I get it, you lost them. It didn't need to be that drawn out.

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Yeah, that's sort of my point. I got attached enough to Rand and some of the other characters that I was willing to suffer through them. The ones that Brandon Sanderson finished were totally awesome... so they were easy. But even considering that, I still couldn't stomach to finish "The Two Towers". Tolkien, in my opinion, gets way to much credit. He wasn't particularly original, as he just stole the mythological world of the Norse and made a few changes (primarily the elves). Admittedly, that's not much different than most authors... but the part that annoys me is that his story wasn't well told.

And as for WoT male heroes being whiny... how many 16-18 year old boys do you know that wouldn't whine in the situation that Rand, Matt, and Perrin found themselves in? Yes, it got annoying. But it's somewhat expected when you are dealing with adolescents. Truthfully, that's one of my bigger gripes with a lot of modern fantasy stories where they have "children" as the primary heroes. They are always so completely mature and have no obvious need to whine and gripe about their bad luck. Which is part of why I like Tom... because while he does whine sometimes and clearly needs to mature he doesn't whine ALL the time.

...and then there's Twilight whining, which is at a different level.

Fair enough. Although, all things being equal the emasculation of men in the novels and the resultant problems that it created in the books (and yes, the author did note it once or twice)... to me somewhat spoke to the reality in the United States where feminism has been emasculating men (among other things) for the last 50 years and the result was how it (Feminism) destroyed the idea of the American family. But that's me.

For the record, I don't think the family needs a man to be the "breadwinner" I would quite happily get married let her do all the "work" by having a job. Working sucks. But I do think that children need fathers and mothers to properly learn how to interact with the world. Strong male (or female) role models could be used in lieu of having opposite sex parents... but most single parent families don't have that either.

Haven't seen it mentioned so far but I highly recommend the Spellmonger series by Terry Mancour.

10 books so far and any author who creates his own method of cursing based upon the goddesses assets he himself writes about gets some of my money.

Highly quotable

Worth the candle

Mother of learning

Also basically anything by drew hayes is great, like forging haespstus and super powereds.

I bought a bunch of novels for the summer holidays, and I have to say that three books in a row not-so-subtly concentrating on extolling the virtues of Grrrl Power left an aftertaste of crude propaganda as strong as the North Korean TV variety.


Can't we have equality, do men really have to be stupid, spineless, cowardly, and willing targets of ridicule in Science Fiction and Fantasy literature from now on? So many authors have turned on the faucet, that I suppose this is what American TV storytelling became at some point of the writers' youth or childhood.

And if you want to write propaganda, can't you at least not insult my intelligence and perception, do you have to be so crude and unsophisticated about it?

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Some books that you might find interesting.....

The Iron Teeth Series by Scott Straughan.....first book is A Goblin's Tale

Starting to find more and more books where the MC is 'evil' or from some type of 'evil' race.

The MC for these books is a goblin, with a golblin's view of the world & attitude.