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Offline Mikey  
#1 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2024 12:46:02 PM(UTC)
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So, I've been thinking about a zombie story. What if the zombie plague isn't that dramatic?

It starts with a global rainstorm where 10% of humanity gets infected. They turn into slow brainless clumsy zombies. In the immediate aftermath, another 5% gets infected by bites, as nobody really knows what's going on.

But over the whole rest of the event, only another 5% of humanity ever gets killed by zombie bites, because they're really not that difficult to handle.

They are human bodies that keep on moving and infecting humans, but they have no brains, barely any senses, can more or less get an keep themselves upright, but have really shitty coordination. A zombie certainly can't get itself out of a ditch. Their bones aren't any harder than normal human bones, and their muscles aren't any stronger.

An aluminum drop down screen door can keep all the zombies in the world away for however long.

Humans pretty quickly notice that unless you get mobbed in the open, you can easily hold a zombie at bay with a long stick. And rather than guns, long sticks become the main weapon of humans against zombies.

There's the grocery bag stick, which is a plastic pole with about 5-10 plastic bags layered open in one end, with a large zip the around the opening. You use the pole to get the bags around the zombie's head, pull on the rope which tightens the zip tie, and that's it for that zombie's biting career, never mind seeing and hearing. Too bad they don't need oxygen.

Then there's the loop grab stick, which is a little more sturdy aluminum pole, with a steel cable running inside. On the other end, you can either use the cable loop to grap a zombie's head, or pull on the cable to have the steel claws grab on the zombie's legs or arms. Using the grabber, you can easily dump the zombie on the ground. Then a different guy bags its head, its legs and ankles together, and maybe its hands too.

So, "Zombie to go".
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#2 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2024 12:52:31 PM(UTC)
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The sequence of events in the book is:

The rain, the chaos, the hunting, the order, the aftermath.

I'm not going to have any midichlorians or explanations for the zombie rain. It's just going to be a show, don't tell, kind of a deal.

Another weapon I'm contemplating is the kind of polypropylene plastic strapping that's used in shipping. Have the humans use it to package the zombies from the ditches, rather than trust the humans with sharp zombie killing weapons.

Then have garbage trucks collect the packaged zombies for central disposal.

World War Z kind of toyed with a similar sort of an idea, but they still went more dramatic and bang bang than I'm thinking.

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Offline William Gerard Graves  
#3 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2024 2:45:28 PM(UTC)
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So the story will be, life goes on during a "zombie apocalypse". Because the zombies are a minority and easy to handle, the populace at large is safe to a degree.

To be honest, that is quite an interesting story. You planning to write it, or just in the early idea phase?
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#4 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2024 2:55:34 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: William Gerard Graves Go to Quoted Post
You planning to write it, or just in the early idea phase?


If I've learned anything from TAG, it's to never promise or hint anything.

This is to be a mundane procedural, where the zombies are an irritating inconvenience, like masking during COVID.

Sure 20% of us died, but we had the funerals for most of them, and I have to check the zombie ditch outside every morning and have my zombies wrapped up in grocery bags for curbside pickup.

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Offline Lunarmage  
#5 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2024 2:59:47 PM(UTC)
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The problem with zombies has never really been that they are hard to deal with individually, but the danger they pose in numbers. An aluminum roll down door can stop a normal person. But it can't stop a large number of them actively trying to get in. The same can be said of zombie, except now you have to deal with 'people' who don't know pain or blood loss. Physics starts to play a larger roll in how you deal with the dead. The zombies in World War Z (book not movie) had no supernatural power, no driving force beyond hunger, but posed a very real threat to people due to numbers. Just a thought.
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#6 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2024 4:35:57 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Lunarmage Go to Quoted Post
The problem with zombies has never really been that they are hard to deal with individually, but the danger they pose in numbers.



Yes, yes, YES. This is exactly the concept that's at center stage in this story. I'm glad that you're thinking about it as well.

The stupid and clumsy zombies don't act in concert. They don't even throw themselves at the door to use their mass. They just shamble up to it and start beating.

Other zombies might shamble towards any activity, but if they don't see or hear or smell humans, they don't really activate. So it's going to be a fairly small amount of zombies any door needs to deal with, especially as human architecture has been designed to contain constraints for the whole squishing thing.

However, the humans are able to use visible lures held high to draw hordes of zombies to places such as parking garages, where they can use the pressure from the masses to force zombies off the ledge and fall fire stories down on the concrete.

It's very hard to do, though, since when zombies start getting closer to each other, their brownian movement starts pushing on each other, and the first casualty of this is their ability to stay standing. So half of the zombies in the crowd will fall over like in a clown show, and start clumsily getting up, in the process tipping down other zombies, and as zombies are perpetual motion machines, this clown show will go on until their arms and legs have been ground down into stumps, or the pressure abates for some reason.
Offline William Gerard Graves  
#7 Posted : Friday, August 23, 2024 1:18:00 AM(UTC)
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Good man, never promise anything if you are not sure you can deliver.

You are both right, zombies are not a major threat in low numbers. Air-born zombie virus scares me more than zombie bites. Because zombies probably couldn't bring us to the edge of extinction like they are portrayed in most zombie films. Unless air born virus just sweeps across the world and no one has a vaccine, which I rather doubt we could not develop one.

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#8 Posted : Friday, August 23, 2024 9:45:00 PM(UTC)
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So kinda like Shaun of the Dead? Especially the end? That sounds interesting. Is that what you're thinking, the apocalypse, then a maybe a short aftermath epilogue, or just gloss the apocalypse, and try a zombie slice-of-life?
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Offline Mikey  
#9 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2024 1:30:42 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Dungeon Roomba Go to Quoted Post
So kinda like Shaun of the Dead? Especially the end?


Have to think about it, didn't even consider Shaun of the Dead in this context.

Somehow I don't even see it as a zombie film, it's more of a Simon Pegg and Nick Frost UK social commentary comedy to me.

This is more like optimistic sci-fi with some humor, than a primary comedy.

Perhaps an alternative title could be "Zombies aren't the end of the world" as the message is that basically we can handle things.

Thanks for reminding. It's been decades, have to rent it and watch it.

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