Oh, and going back a bit, for the record, I was hinting that Rosver might be a demon.
Demons love to argue over previous statements, documents, agreements, you name it.


All in, demons are just warmer, nicer, cuddlier lawyers...

Actually, you'd be surprised how often I hear that last theory.

I hear it about every 45 seconds in fact. Not sure who is whispering it in my ear, but it does get very convincing at times.

I really have no proof that anything outside myself exists. Not even sure I need anything outside myself, after all, if you are all just figments of my imagination, then I am great company for myself!

Well, demons aren't really great businessmen, and they all have a grass is always greener on the other street sort of view.

Which is odd, because green grass doesn't grow very well in the Abyss....

They don't move that often, I would say most stores move maybe once a year or so, they usually go through some appearance rotations more often than moving.

I know you don't mind it and are just pointing it out. That's important because it causes thought and introspection and cleans things up.

It's the sort of examination and pointing out that is critical in a Beta Reader for example.

You know, come to think of it, it's interesting we are talking about collapsed buildings right now.

For some reason this seems to be the time of year most of the collapsed buildings start appearing!

Not sure why this season. Admittedly this is the time of year when demons and their extended families get together to drink Devil's Nogg and feast on Roast Elf and reindeer.

Some of the "discussions" get a bit heated with the Nogg....

I suppose the ruins could be related to holiday gathering.

No idea what that means, I've reread and I think it represents a crossed meaning between posts.

You were making the point about why would some go to so much work to create shapeshifting buildings, and have one "shape" be a collapsed ruin...because it wouldn't serve one's vanity.

People build palaces out of vanity, not ruins.

And Madfoxii was countering with the point, demons like to destroy things, in particular, nice things. So building nice buildings only to subsequently destroy them is not necessarily against one's vanity.

I.e. one can imagine a demon so vane that they want people to know they have so much power, they can afford to destroy their own palaces...

I think....

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Excellent!

Cool, but you need to sign in Blood red font.

Otherwise I am unable to collect your soul via email.

Excellent point.

Plus just think about all the faux urban decay people build.

I should think you could have both faux ruins and real ones.

It's really a mixed bag, to be honest:

In reality, there are true ruins that are most likely because there was a fight or battle in that building and it was damaged/brought to ruin and no one has gotten around to clearing them ore rebuilding them. I would not assume destitute, perhaps they are just lazy, but they may very well be broke.

for example say you are a mid level demon who toils for centuries to make enough money/favors to buy a house, a store or a condo and it gets destroyed, we don't have insurance (or rather we do--but it's more mafia style insurance) so it could take you another couple centuries to work up the money to rebuild your house or your store or whatever it was.

In some cases the owner might actually live in the ruins because they have no where else to go or to protect their land. And this, for me is a very sad and depressing situation. I have some friends like this. They are squatters in their own ruins because they got in huge fight with their neighbors and well...things came crashing down.

Now on the other hand, because there are styles, there are some buildings that are built to look like ruins, (or illusioned to) particularly during post apocalypse phases (.e.g. Mad Max Decor) in which case you will find bars and such that look ruined but are more like functional set pieces in a movie.